1 00:00:06,230 --> 00:00:04,430 good afternoon everybody and welcome to 2 00:00:07,940 --> 00:00:06,240 the Kennedy Space Center my name is 3 00:00:09,620 --> 00:00:07,950 Jason Townsend i'm the NASA's deputy 4 00:00:11,180 --> 00:00:09,630 social media manager and I'd like to 5 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:11,190 welcome you to today's program for the 6 00:00:15,470 --> 00:00:13,440 NASA social we're here to celebrate the 7 00:00:16,970 --> 00:00:15,480 journey of the Atlantis space shuttle as 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:16,980 it moves to its final home 9 00:00:21,349 --> 00:00:19,170 this is the last NASA social event of 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:21,359 the space shuttle program it's kind of 11 00:00:25,609 --> 00:00:22,890 incredible where we've come from here 12 00:00:28,820 --> 00:00:25,619 it all started many many many years ago 13 00:00:31,009 --> 00:00:28,830 in 2009 out at JPL for the very first 14 00:00:33,049 --> 00:00:31,019 NASA Tweetup since then we've grown and 15 00:00:35,299 --> 00:00:33,059 expanded from just being a Twitter based 16 00:00:36,889 --> 00:00:35,309 program and we include more and more 17 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:36,899 people now from other platforms such as 18 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:39,600 Facebook and Google+ we're excited that 19 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:40,410 we're able to bring these 20 00:00:43,580 --> 00:00:41,760 behind-the-scenes experiences to 21 00:00:44,990 --> 00:00:43,590 everybody who follows us and who's our 22 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:45,000 fan on all of our social media platforms 23 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:47,100 it's really a chance for us to show 24 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:48,960 exactly what we have going on pull that 25 00:00:52,540 --> 00:00:50,610 curtain back and kind of put a nice face 26 00:00:54,260 --> 00:00:52,550 on what we have going on here at NASA 27 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:54,270 the thing that's really interesting 28 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:56,250 about this is that the connections that 29 00:00:59,689 --> 00:00:57,510 are built in the community that's made 30 00:01:01,369 --> 00:00:59,699 out there on social media it is really 31 00:01:03,170 --> 00:01:01,379 really interesting to see exactly how 32 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:03,180 the community has grown we've had over 33 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:05,040 800 people who now are alumni of the 34 00:01:08,750 --> 00:01:07,110 NASA social program and to this day 35 00:01:10,670 --> 00:01:08,760 several of them are still very actively 36 00:01:13,490 --> 00:01:10,680 involved online and sharing the space 37 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:13,500 news that we as NASA are generating it's 38 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:15,570 an interesting time for the agency we're 39 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:16,920 looking at growing and going to new 40 00:01:20,690 --> 00:01:18,540 places and doing new things and 41 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:20,700 developing new technologies so today 42 00:01:23,510 --> 00:01:21,600 we're going to share a little bit about 43 00:01:25,550 --> 00:01:23,520 what that transformation has been and 44 00:01:27,530 --> 00:01:25,560 where we're headed in the future so 45 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:27,540 without any further ado I'd like to 46 00:01:30,679 --> 00:01:29,369 welcome everybody and first off to 47 00:01:32,569 --> 00:01:30,689 welcome you to Kennedy Space Center is 48 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:32,579 the director of public affairs here miss 49 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:39,600 Lisa Malone thank you Jason and it's my 50 00:01:43,399 --> 00:01:41,070 pleasure to welcome all of you here to 51 00:01:45,679 --> 00:01:43,409 Kennedy Space Center as Jason mentioned 52 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:45,689 we've had several successful social 53 00:01:49,340 --> 00:01:47,310 media events here at Kennedy and 54 00:01:51,469 --> 00:01:49,350 everyone who comes and participates 55 00:01:53,060 --> 00:01:51,479 really enjoys it they'd like to learn 56 00:01:54,770 --> 00:01:53,070 more about Kennedy Space Center and and 57 00:01:56,330 --> 00:01:54,780 see what's going on here so you're gonna 58 00:01:58,789 --> 00:01:56,340 hear a lot and see a lot today and hope 59 00:02:01,580 --> 00:01:58,799 you enjoy it and please ask questions 60 00:02:02,810 --> 00:02:01,590 along the way and just to enjoy 61 00:02:04,670 --> 00:02:02,820 everything that you that you're gonna 62 00:02:05,929 --> 00:02:04,680 see and learn some of the things you're 63 00:02:08,089 --> 00:02:05,939 going to hear about today in this 64 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:08,099 briefing are about how Kennedy Space 65 00:02:12,530 --> 00:02:10,500 Center is transforming to become a 66 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:12,540 multi-user facility and how we're going 67 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:13,650 to be the 68 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:16,110 militating commercial space companies to 69 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:19,200 use the facilities here and also the 70 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:21,209 next program that NASA has which is the 71 00:02:25,009 --> 00:02:22,680 Space Launch System you're going to hear 72 00:02:26,809 --> 00:02:25,019 a little bit about that as well and then 73 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:26,819 you're gonna hear about a program that 74 00:02:30,649 --> 00:02:29,040 Kennedy has had for many years the 75 00:02:33,170 --> 00:02:30,659 launch services program that is still 76 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:33,180 active we're launching rockets that look 77 00:02:38,449 --> 00:02:35,609 out into the deep space look back at 78 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:38,459 Earth and course go to other planets in 79 00:02:42,679 --> 00:02:41,010 the case of Mars which some of you may 80 00:02:45,289 --> 00:02:42,689 have had there dissipated to some of 81 00:02:47,390 --> 00:02:45,299 those social media events as well so 82 00:02:49,069 --> 00:02:47,400 we'd like to start it off with a video 83 00:07:44,809 --> 00:02:49,079 and then we'll get right into the 84 00:07:48,689 --> 00:07:47,189 so today we've got several presenters 85 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:48,699 who are gonna be talking some about what 86 00:07:52,619 --> 00:07:50,080 you've just seen in this video here 87 00:07:54,089 --> 00:07:52,629 first up we're gonna have Scott Colorado 88 00:07:55,769 --> 00:07:54,099 the chief architect of the ground 89 00:07:56,909 --> 00:07:55,779 systems development operation program 90 00:08:00,499 --> 00:07:56,919 here at Kennedy Space Center to talk 91 00:08:07,469 --> 00:08:05,159 thank you okay hopefully that video was 92 00:08:10,109 --> 00:08:07,479 useful to you I understand y'all been 93 00:08:11,939 --> 00:08:10,119 around a little bit here at Kennedy VAB 94 00:08:13,649 --> 00:08:11,949 today and the visitors center later and 95 00:08:16,919 --> 00:08:13,659 around a little bit first of all my name 96 00:08:18,989 --> 00:08:16,929 is co ll o re do you're gonna see that 97 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:18,999 again later on today my better half will 98 00:08:22,169 --> 00:08:20,409 be speaking to you as well so if that 99 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:22,179 sounds like a coincidence we're not like 100 00:08:27,059 --> 00:08:24,449 all half named Colorado here that is 101 00:08:28,229 --> 00:08:27,069 it's no coincidence so and spell that 102 00:08:30,209 --> 00:08:28,239 right because my mom will really 103 00:08:32,369 --> 00:08:30,219 appreciate being they'll find me if you 104 00:08:35,069 --> 00:08:32,379 do any twittering or anything like that 105 00:08:36,689 --> 00:08:35,079 or tweeting I guess it's a great time so 106 00:08:38,309 --> 00:08:36,699 yeah I am the chief architect a lot of 107 00:08:40,649 --> 00:08:38,319 what you just saw in the video is the 108 00:08:42,540 --> 00:08:40,659 kind of thing that we're working on we 109 00:08:44,699 --> 00:08:42,550 work on launch pads if you're familiar 110 00:08:46,769 --> 00:08:44,709 with you know the way we're set up here 111 00:08:48,929 --> 00:08:46,779 it's the massive VAB that's where all 112 00:08:50,249 --> 00:08:48,939 the big pieces come together they get 113 00:08:53,429 --> 00:08:50,259 stacked on what's called a mobile 114 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:53,439 launcher a big item the original rover I 115 00:08:55,949 --> 00:08:54,730 keep saying this little Rover the 116 00:08:58,139 --> 00:08:55,959 parently he's got a lot of press in the 117 00:08:59,759 --> 00:08:58,149 last couple years which is great the big 118 00:09:02,129 --> 00:08:59,769 one that we have here the five and a 119 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:02,139 half million pound one we developed that 120 00:09:05,069 --> 00:09:03,250 here and we're actually going to reuse 121 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:05,079 it for the next program so kind of 122 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:06,689 jumping out a script a little bit 123 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:09,310 probably talk first I know you're gonna 124 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:11,170 hear from SLS the Space Launch System 125 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:14,170 right and I think later I heard a Ryan 126 00:09:18,179 --> 00:09:16,569 spacecraft right so I guess what I 127 00:09:20,939 --> 00:09:18,189 probably like to tell you about not to 128 00:09:22,379 --> 00:09:20,949 steal their thunder is to tell you a 129 00:09:23,759 --> 00:09:22,389 little bit about the rocket just to show 130 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:23,769 you that it's what we call an inline 131 00:09:27,990 --> 00:09:26,800 configuration the spacecraft is in line 132 00:09:30,179 --> 00:09:28,000 with the vehicle and he'll tell you all 133 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:30,189 about it I'm sure it is different from 134 00:09:34,079 --> 00:09:31,569 shuttle that's probably the main thing 135 00:09:35,790 --> 00:09:34,089 to cover its shuttles what we call a 136 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:35,800 side mount when you see the big orbiter 137 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:37,420 the spacecraft which are all here to see 138 00:09:42,449 --> 00:09:40,480 tomorrow is mounted to the external tank 139 00:09:44,610 --> 00:09:42,459 and in such a way as you see in this 140 00:09:46,079 --> 00:09:44,620 model over here you see that what we're 141 00:09:47,819 --> 00:09:46,089 dealing with now so it's dramatically 142 00:09:49,259 --> 00:09:47,829 different from that standpoint a lot of 143 00:09:51,299 --> 00:09:49,269 the same components with some sheral 144 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:51,309 cover from our standpoint from the 145 00:09:56,190 --> 00:09:54,010 ground our main purpose in life is 146 00:09:58,110 --> 00:09:56,200 - is to convert Kennedy to support this 147 00:09:59,700 --> 00:09:58,120 rocket we're doing some other things as 148 00:10:01,590 --> 00:09:59,710 well but the main thing is to convert 149 00:10:03,510 --> 00:10:01,600 Kennedy just to launch this rocket and 150 00:10:06,750 --> 00:10:03,520 this giant mosquito that you see on here 151 00:10:10,410 --> 00:10:06,760 I guess that's about 12 feet long if you 152 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:10,420 scaled him up looks like an old one of 153 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:13,510 those monster movies so anyway this is 154 00:10:17,820 --> 00:10:15,370 this is the rocket we'll be launching a 155 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:17,830 Space Launch System and our purpose is 156 00:10:22,650 --> 00:10:19,990 to transform Kennedy and I'll I'll talk 157 00:10:24,660 --> 00:10:22,660 a little bit about what our kind of our 158 00:10:26,370 --> 00:10:24,670 approach right now is in kind of a big 159 00:10:28,290 --> 00:10:26,380 picture from what this video showed you 160 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:28,300 a little bit is our exploration 161 00:10:31,550 --> 00:10:29,830 enterprise we call it where we have 162 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:31,560 three programs the Space Launch System 163 00:10:37,980 --> 00:10:35,710 the Orion multi-purpose crew vehicle and 164 00:10:39,780 --> 00:10:37,990 ground systems development operations 165 00:10:42,330 --> 00:10:39,790 we're all working together to create 166 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:42,340 this capability where as a system we can 167 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:43,870 go virtually anywhere you know I think 168 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:46,090 most of you or follow this kind of thing 169 00:10:50,430 --> 00:10:47,680 or familiar shuttles gone to low-earth 170 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:50,440 orbit the last 30 plus years and that's 171 00:10:54,180 --> 00:10:52,810 been great so awesome program you know 172 00:10:55,650 --> 00:10:54,190 now that it's retired we have the money 173 00:10:56,730 --> 00:10:55,660 to develop something to go beyond that 174 00:10:59,820 --> 00:10:56,740 you're gonna hear about other low-earth 175 00:11:02,310 --> 00:10:59,830 orbit enterprises but our focus is 176 00:11:03,420 --> 00:11:02,320 beyond low-earth orbit and the ultimate 177 00:11:05,010 --> 00:11:03,430 destination if you've heard an 178 00:11:06,270 --> 00:11:05,020 administrator talk about it as Mars 179 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:06,280 that's a big deal that's what we 180 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:08,350 ultimately want to be we haven't yet 181 00:11:13,140 --> 00:11:10,030 determined what path will take to get 182 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:13,150 there between now and Mars I think right 183 00:11:17,580 --> 00:11:15,190 now the the plan is to I know the plan 184 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:17,590 is to develop the capabilities to go 185 00:11:22,350 --> 00:11:19,390 just about anywhere we can as it showed 186 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:22,360 in the video Phobos to go back to the 187 00:11:27,150 --> 00:11:24,250 moon at least in what they call cislunar 188 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:27,160 space where you orbit the moon various 189 00:11:31,260 --> 00:11:29,530 Nia's near Earth or asteroids or other 190 00:11:32,850 --> 00:11:31,270 opportunities so we're looking at all 191 00:11:35,130 --> 00:11:32,860 those meanwhile we're already making 192 00:11:38,070 --> 00:11:35,140 progress developing the launch pad the 193 00:11:39,420 --> 00:11:38,080 Vehicle Assembly Building the mobile 194 00:11:41,370 --> 00:11:39,430 launcher which I'll talk a little bit 195 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:41,380 about did you see the MLPs today by 196 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:42,910 chance the mobile launch platforms they 197 00:11:46,410 --> 00:11:44,800 might want the big steel structures we 198 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:46,420 had three of those four shuttle had kind 199 00:11:50,490 --> 00:11:47,920 of a higher flight rate we flew more 200 00:11:52,650 --> 00:11:50,500 often what we're now building if you saw 201 00:11:54,150 --> 00:11:52,660 the big one north of the VAB have no 202 00:11:56,220 --> 00:11:54,160 idea what direction it is from this room 203 00:11:58,860 --> 00:11:56,230 but somewhere outside here the big tower 204 00:12:00,660 --> 00:11:58,870 that's just outside the VAB that's what 205 00:12:03,090 --> 00:12:00,670 we actually originally built that for 206 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:03,100 Ares one since that program was 207 00:12:06,210 --> 00:12:04,570 cancelled now we're converting it for 208 00:12:06,750 --> 00:12:06,220 the Space Launch System so excited about 209 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:06,760 that 210 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:08,290 kind of a big five we'd like to talk 211 00:12:11,790 --> 00:12:09,790 about which is the mobile launcher it's 212 00:12:16,170 --> 00:12:11,800 a kind of the key piece the other four 213 00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:16,180 the launch pad 39b the VAB the always 214 00:12:18,930 --> 00:12:17,350 lose these and have to write them down 215 00:12:20,730 --> 00:12:18,940 to myself and I get in front of people 216 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:20,740 all the crawler-transporter 217 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:22,810 and the firing room out of those big 218 00:12:27,150 --> 00:12:24,730 five four of those we're designing is 219 00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:27,160 multi-purpose so virtually any rocket 220 00:12:31,439 --> 00:12:30,190 that looks anything like this would be 221 00:12:33,389 --> 00:12:31,449 able to launch from Kennedy and so 222 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:33,399 that's really our focus now is make it 223 00:12:36,269 --> 00:12:34,959 evolvable because I'm sure I'll tell you 224 00:12:38,610 --> 00:12:36,279 about how this will evolve from 225 00:12:40,139 --> 00:12:38,620 different configurations but we also 226 00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:40,149 want to be able to support other users 227 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:41,920 could as of now we're launching this 228 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:43,690 less often than we like and certainly 229 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:45,910 less often than shuttle so our plan is 230 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:47,649 to fill those gaps with other users 231 00:12:52,410 --> 00:12:51,010 potentially we're also developing at 232 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:52,420 least we have plans to develop we're in 233 00:12:56,220 --> 00:12:54,310 the design of the shuttle landing 234 00:12:58,170 --> 00:12:56,230 facility for familiar with that slf 235 00:13:00,750 --> 00:12:58,180 where shuttle landed all those years 236 00:13:01,980 --> 00:13:00,760 that that job is now done we're looking 237 00:13:03,629 --> 00:13:01,990 at converting that we actually already 238 00:13:05,699 --> 00:13:03,639 have one user signed up so they're 239 00:13:07,710 --> 00:13:05,709 actually going to be doing the future is 240 00:13:09,150 --> 00:13:07,720 now kind of thing we're horizontal 241 00:13:11,189 --> 00:13:09,160 launches and landings will be occurring 242 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:11,199 out there we have one user signed up 243 00:13:14,910 --> 00:13:12,610 officially and we're working on three or 244 00:13:17,009 --> 00:13:14,920 four others so a lot of people think 245 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:17,019 about 39 a and B if once you get 246 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:18,880 familiar with Kennedy that's kind of our 247 00:13:23,579 --> 00:13:22,089 main area our flagship launch sites but 248 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:23,589 we're really looking at turning the slf 249 00:13:27,569 --> 00:13:25,810 into a third one so we're excited about 250 00:13:30,449 --> 00:13:27,579 that as well and so again we're 251 00:13:32,309 --> 00:13:30,459 converting to a multi-use capability 252 00:13:33,990 --> 00:13:32,319 it's a term we use you know we really 253 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:34,000 were shuttle focus for the last thirty 254 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:36,430 years now we want to allow ourselves to 255 00:13:41,699 --> 00:13:38,410 think about other things and commercial 256 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:41,709 users from any other program are able to 257 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:43,300 come here and ask for our services and 258 00:13:49,470 --> 00:13:48,160 we think we can provide that so I don't 259 00:13:51,210 --> 00:13:49,480 know is it - already to answer questions 260 00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:51,220 I got some more things to say but you 261 00:14:06,420 --> 00:14:04,500 oh yeah it's so it's official in spoke 262 00:14:08,940 --> 00:14:06,430 as a company called XCore it's a 263 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:08,950 horizontal launcher and it's basically a 264 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:11,410 fully reusable single stage to 265 00:14:16,410 --> 00:14:13,930 suborbital vehicle and they're already 266 00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:16,420 test flying various configurations out 267 00:14:21,390 --> 00:14:19,110 in Mojave spaceport in California and 268 00:14:22,770 --> 00:14:21,400 they've officially signed I'm not sure 269 00:14:24,570 --> 00:14:22,780 exactly how the agreements written but 270 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:24,580 they're officially signed with coming to 271 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:26,890 Florida with combination of space 272 00:14:30,090 --> 00:14:28,450 Florida and Kennedy Space Center so 273 00:14:31,260 --> 00:14:30,100 we've actually got an office here called 274 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:31,270 the center planning and development 275 00:14:35,190 --> 00:14:33,430 office we work closely with them and 276 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:35,200 they nurture those capabilities and 277 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:37,510 XCore is the first one and I can tell 278 00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:38,650 you I think it's pretty public there's 279 00:14:41,940 --> 00:14:40,150 some others like straddle launch is one 280 00:14:43,890 --> 00:14:41,950 that's talking to us and there are 281 00:14:48,330 --> 00:14:43,900 others out there that are considering 282 00:14:51,870 --> 00:14:50,310 any other question I've got I've got one 283 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:51,880 if you if you run if you don't have any 284 00:14:56,910 --> 00:14:53,770 I can feel I can feel my own time if 285 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:56,920 needed hey thanks for spending time with 286 00:14:59,040 --> 00:14:57,370 us today 287 00:15:02,160 --> 00:14:59,050 I guess a question for you in the ground 288 00:15:04,620 --> 00:15:02,170 systems work that's going on what do you 289 00:15:06,930 --> 00:15:04,630 see the biggest challenge for the 290 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:06,940 program between now and 2017 with the 291 00:15:12,510 --> 00:15:10,450 targeted block one launch of SLS I think 292 00:15:15,090 --> 00:15:12,520 the the biggest challenge has to be 293 00:15:17,340 --> 00:15:15,100 affordability and that's really our our 294 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:17,350 goal is to make this more affordable you 295 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:19,690 know government is not known you know 296 00:15:24,750 --> 00:15:22,240 quite honestly to be efficient or to be 297 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:24,760 cheap I guess or efficient we're more 298 00:15:29,550 --> 00:15:27,730 optimized around being fair so trying to 299 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:29,560 be efficient and fair at the same time 300 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:32,350 it's tough we've got an expression we 301 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:34,030 use a lot you'll hear a lot come flat is 302 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:35,740 a new up that's our that's our budget 303 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:37,930 now and honestly flat is almost the new 304 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:40,390 down because we're down is the new up so 305 00:15:43,830 --> 00:15:41,710 to speak because correcting for 306 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:43,840 inflation we're actually losing over 307 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:46,240 time as far as what our budget is but so 308 00:15:48,930 --> 00:15:47,710 you traditionally and I don't know if I 309 00:15:50,850 --> 00:15:48,940 guess y'all can see this and I guess 310 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:50,860 we're used to talking on telecoms and 311 00:15:55,860 --> 00:15:52,450 making hands and nobody can see them but 312 00:15:57,870 --> 00:15:55,870 a traditional development curve has a 313 00:15:59,130 --> 00:15:57,880 big spike in it where you develop doing 314 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:59,140 what we're doing now it's not much you 315 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:01,120 see and people you know by the way think 316 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:02,590 we're closed out here which couldn't be 317 00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:03,850 further from the truth we get that 318 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:05,440 question a lot so anything y'all can do 319 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:07,510 to dispel that myth I hope you're seeing 320 00:16:10,740 --> 00:16:09,010 a lot of progress going on out here 321 00:16:13,770 --> 00:16:10,750 but what you'd like to have in the 322 00:16:15,780 --> 00:16:13,780 initial part of a program is a nice big 323 00:16:17,790 --> 00:16:15,790 spike to develop the facilities develop 324 00:16:19,290 --> 00:16:17,800 the rocket develop the spacecraft 325 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:19,300 everything and then it smoothes out and 326 00:16:22,770 --> 00:16:21,670 operationally you can kind of flap now 327 00:16:25,170 --> 00:16:22,780 to get into more your long-term 328 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:25,180 recurring cost but we've been given this 329 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:27,370 flat as the new up kind of thing and so 330 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:30,010 we're having to develop more serially 331 00:16:34,010 --> 00:16:31,570 than we'd like we'd like to just hit it 332 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:34,020 and hit it hard and be done with it but 333 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:36,430 the way it's set up is we don't launch 334 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:39,310 till 2017 so basically our our budget is 335 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:40,870 flat and tilt in so we'll develop 336 00:16:45,930 --> 00:16:42,730 between now and then but that's easily 337 00:16:47,850 --> 00:16:45,940 the biggest challenge is making it come 338 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:47,860 in on on budget and then right behind 339 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:50,020 that is schedule because schedule is 340 00:16:58,190 --> 00:16:51,610 very important to us we got we have to 341 00:17:02,070 --> 00:17:00,450 anybody will know how much the crawler 342 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:02,080 can pick up that was once always a good 343 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:04,329 one you know do you want to know anybody 344 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:06,400 okay not it can't be a NASA employee 345 00:17:10,740 --> 00:17:07,990 that's asking me a question I don't 346 00:17:12,449 --> 00:17:10,750 think I think that's illegal now that is 347 00:17:14,340 --> 00:17:12,459 one count of G with I always have people 348 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:14,350 guess and they'll guess about 300 349 00:17:17,699 --> 00:17:15,850 thousand pounds or may you know a big 350 00:17:20,010 --> 00:17:17,709 one or fifty tons or something but we 351 00:17:21,390 --> 00:17:20,020 rolled out shuttle on an MLP and all the 352 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:21,400 way back to Saturn which is the same 353 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:23,500 crawler that we have today right around 354 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:25,030 twelve million pounds is what we have to 355 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:26,770 pick up for the crawler and the cool 356 00:17:31,020 --> 00:17:29,110 factor here with the SLS it's a bigger 357 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:31,030 vehicle it's bigger rocket it's heavier 358 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:33,610 weight more on the launcher to support 359 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:34,660 all that and we're actually designing 360 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:37,510 redesigning crawler 2 to crawler crawler 361 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:39,970 2 is being redesigned to handle 18 362 00:17:44,340 --> 00:17:42,370 million pounds so so it's another 50% 363 00:17:45,810 --> 00:17:44,350 more capacity and kind of like that a 364 00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:45,820 lot of things we're doing clean pad 365 00:17:50,510 --> 00:17:47,920 where we're making it very generic the 366 00:17:52,770 --> 00:17:50,520 plan is to make everything just is 367 00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:52,780 capable as possible so that another 368 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:54,160 vehicle comes along we don't have to 369 00:17:58,050 --> 00:17:56,320 make any big changes okay there's a 370 00:18:07,770 --> 00:17:58,060 question I guess I can't ask my own 371 00:18:14,540 --> 00:18:11,460 on 39b and and i suppose maybe 372 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:14,550 eventually 39a do you actually have any 373 00:18:21,390 --> 00:18:20,440 known interested customers or users in 374 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:21,400 addition to nasa 375 00:18:26,790 --> 00:18:25,450 for either 39a and 39b yeah we have now 376 00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:26,800 those we're not we can't really talk 377 00:18:31,140 --> 00:18:28,860 about but it's known and interested yeah 378 00:18:33,420 --> 00:18:31,150 approved you know that's that's a bigger 379 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,430 because it's it's actually somewhat 380 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:35,440 revolutionary to design a multi-use 381 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:37,690 launchpad at that scale you know we're 382 00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:40,570 talking you know our marshall guys call 383 00:18:44,340 --> 00:18:42,280 us a heavy-lift this is really a super 384 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:44,350 heavy lift way bigger than anything we 385 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:46,210 do around here we've ever done other 386 00:18:50,670 --> 00:18:49,090 than Saturn 5 really and so to do 387 00:18:52,830 --> 00:18:50,680 something like this multi-use on that 388 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:52,840 scale is pretty novel in the comfort 389 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:55,030 level and you know lining up everything 390 00:18:57,990 --> 00:18:56,110 at the right time and the right 391 00:19:00,060 --> 00:18:58,000 opportunities it's tough but we are 392 00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:00,070 talking to several companies about it we 393 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:01,870 have been and will continue to do we 394 00:19:06,690 --> 00:19:04,450 don't have anybody signed up yet but we 395 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:06,700 expect to and just for your information 396 00:19:11,850 --> 00:19:09,490 those at artists familiars James is 39a 397 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:11,860 is instilling shuttle configuration if 398 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:13,810 you went out there you see the rotating 399 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:15,070 service structure fixed service 400 00:19:18,780 --> 00:19:17,050 structure you know all the shuttle 401 00:19:20,970 --> 00:19:18,790 specific capabilities we're leaving 402 00:19:22,110 --> 00:19:20,980 those in place there's a way we're doing 403 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:22,120 a lot of things is we're leaving 404 00:19:27,060 --> 00:19:24,640 essentially one string and shuttle 405 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:27,070 configuration and one we're rehaul and 406 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:29,890 for overhauling for SLS and so there's 407 00:19:33,230 --> 00:19:31,450 depending on the company and what their 408 00:19:35,730 --> 00:19:33,240 use is they're more interested in a or b 409 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:35,740 so we're still talking but we have 410 00:19:41,490 --> 00:19:39,250 nobody signed up yet if you elaborate 411 00:19:43,710 --> 00:19:41,500 any on 39a and you've talked about that 412 00:19:46,670 --> 00:19:43,720 or KSC has talked about that as that's 413 00:19:49,710 --> 00:19:46,680 becoming a quote unquote commercial path 414 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:49,720 in what way will you make that that pad 415 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:53,050 available to other users will it be 416 00:19:58,290 --> 00:19:56,710 given to a company that steps forward to 417 00:20:02,670 --> 00:19:58,300 ask for it or is it is it also a 418 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:02,680 multi-use ban it's for CP do I think I 419 00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:04,570 can wing it a little bit I mean it's it 420 00:20:08,430 --> 00:20:06,070 would it would also be multi-use 421 00:20:10,620 --> 00:20:08,440 presumably I mean we you know one thing 422 00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:10,630 about it took us about five or six years 423 00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:12,640 to build 39a in the first place and that 424 00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:14,350 was back in the 60s when you just said 425 00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:16,720 free reign on budget and environmental 426 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:18,190 concerns and also we're really humping 427 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:20,020 it to get it built so we don't want to 428 00:20:23,250 --> 00:20:21,610 we don't want to repeat that again so we 429 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:23,260 treasure those two even though we don't 430 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:25,330 need two launch pads for SLS because the 431 00:20:30,180 --> 00:20:27,370 flight rates lower we aren't holding on 432 00:20:31,919 --> 00:20:30,190 to both of them to some extent but so 433 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:31,929 that so they are talking agreements and 434 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:33,970 things like that but we we want to be as 435 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:36,760 flexible as possible so I would say that 436 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:40,950 more than likely it would be multiple 437 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:43,510 open to multiple users and I don't know 438 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:45,370 how the specific agreements and I would 439 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:47,850 be written but we're not inclined to 440 00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:49,990 dedicate it to one thing and forevermore 441 00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:53,679 be that uh I think our our gut feel is 442 00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:55,150 that we need to keep it as open as 443 00:21:00,510 --> 00:20:58,960 possible so again I would say virtually 444 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:00,520 everything the crawler the firing rooms 445 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:02,410 the launch pads for the most part the 446 00:21:05,610 --> 00:21:03,730 mobile launcher is the one thing that 447 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:05,620 just to kind of go back to that it's so 448 00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:07,330 close to the vehicle and has to be so 449 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:09,400 specific to the vehicles needs that's 450 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:11,170 the one thing we struggle with to being 451 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:13,480 as open and generic and multi-purpose is 452 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:15,250 everything else but everything else 453 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:17,050 we're going to try to keep that way now 454 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:18,190 if it comes a point in time where it 455 00:21:28,140 --> 00:21:20,230 makes more sense to dedicate it we may 456 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:28,150 do that so okay wanting more partners 457 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:30,340 with the launch capability are you 458 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:32,110 looking at specifically us-based are you 459 00:21:36,030 --> 00:21:33,690 also looking at international partners 460 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:36,040 when you say looked at we we wait till 461 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:38,530 they come to us we put out or actually 462 00:21:43,050 --> 00:21:40,870 RC video friends put out a notice of 463 00:21:44,370 --> 00:21:43,060 availability it's called and various 464 00:21:46,590 --> 00:21:44,380 things to tell the world that we're 465 00:21:49,290 --> 00:21:46,600 available so far they've only been 466 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:49,300 domestic but if an international came to 467 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:51,250 us we would be open to that I mean 468 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:52,810 obviously it'd be more complicated and 469 00:21:57,690 --> 00:21:54,760 you know relations and things like that 470 00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:57,700 but physically like I say we're trying 471 00:22:01,020 --> 00:21:59,410 to build this and just to highlight a 472 00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:01,030 couple of that you said last question so 473 00:22:06,090 --> 00:22:02,230 I can make my answer as long as I want 474 00:22:07,260 --> 00:22:06,100 right buy more time that way but one of 475 00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:07,270 the things you'll notice if you go by 476 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:08,920 the pad we what we call the universal 477 00:22:12,570 --> 00:22:10,240 lightning protection system there's 478 00:22:14,850 --> 00:22:12,580 three towers and catenary wires that 479 00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:14,860 provide a Faraday cage protection that 480 00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:16,750 protects any rocket even bigger than 481 00:22:20,460 --> 00:22:18,400 this on down basically if it rolls out 482 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:20,470 of the VAB we can protect it with the 483 00:22:24,690 --> 00:22:22,210 lightning protection we've also just 484 00:22:27,060 --> 00:22:24,700 been able to officially say that we've 485 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:27,070 designed a multi-use or a universal 486 00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:28,570 flame deflector which is kind of a big 487 00:22:31,980 --> 00:22:29,940 deal at the bottom of the rocket 488 00:22:32,910 --> 00:22:31,990 especially the big Rockets they need a 489 00:22:35,340 --> 00:22:32,920 lot of 490 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:35,350 directional thrusts help so you don't 491 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:36,850 want to just reverberating and creating 492 00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:38,410 a pressure wave and foreign object 493 00:22:41,940 --> 00:22:39,760 debris and all that coming back at the 494 00:22:43,710 --> 00:22:41,950 rocket so for the first time as far as 495 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:43,720 we know and particularly on this scale 496 00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:45,700 we designed it to be Universal so 497 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,830 practically any vehicle could launch off 498 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,080 the pad and be fun so those kind of 499 00:22:54,810 --> 00:22:52,720 things we think will and enhance the 500 00:22:56,610 --> 00:22:54,820 capability that virtually any rocket at 501 00:23:01,010 --> 00:22:56,620 least a vertically launch rocket would 502 00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:14,070 okay all right so I hope everybody's 503 00:23:17,670 --> 00:23:15,520 following along online if you are a 504 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:17,680 hashtag for today's event is pound NASA 505 00:23:22,050 --> 00:23:20,590 social and you can also use for the 506 00:23:23,130 --> 00:23:22,060 Atlantis move that's happening tomorrow 507 00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:23,140 and everything you can use pound 508 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:25,180 Atlantis and we are streaming this 509 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:27,310 online on the media channel of NASA 510 00:23:31,530 --> 00:23:28,750 television so hopefully you guys are 511 00:23:33,450 --> 00:23:31,540 watching online as well next up we have 512 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:33,460 Tom herb Minh he's the deputy manager of 513 00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:35,590 the Space Launch System resident office 514 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:40,960 here at Kennedy Space Center so tom well 515 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:44,890 thank you all for coming so I've been 516 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:46,450 working for NASA a little over 20 years 517 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:48,850 I've been fortunate enough to work on 518 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:50,950 the space shuttle and also International 519 00:23:54,810 --> 00:23:52,900 Space Station's a number of payloads 520 00:23:57,930 --> 00:23:54,820 that have flown and so now we're 521 00:24:00,120 --> 00:23:57,940 starting to look at the SLS vehicle yes 522 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:00,130 a bad boy this is gonna be bigger than 523 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:02,290 any rocket by far we've ever built in us 524 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,110 in this country in the world and we're 525 00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:07,840 trying to focus 100% on affordability 526 00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:10,990 and sustainability so we first talked 527 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:12,790 about affordability you know trying to 528 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:15,630 keep within a Scott set a flat budget or 529 00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:18,640 reducing budget we try to leverage off 530 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:20,860 the old shuttle hardware knowledge we've 531 00:24:25,050 --> 00:24:22,690 done and you can see here the shuttle is 532 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:25,060 two solid rocket boosters they're four 533 00:24:29,010 --> 00:24:26,890 segments so we're gonna look at for the 534 00:24:30,780 --> 00:24:29,020 SLS we're gonna have two solid rocket 535 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:30,790 boosters that are five segments so 536 00:24:34,770 --> 00:24:32,410 increase the thrust and the performance 537 00:24:36,930 --> 00:24:34,780 of the vehicle Space Shuttle main 538 00:24:39,150 --> 00:24:36,940 engines rs.25 engines you have three of 539 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,160 them on the shuttle here we're gonna 540 00:24:44,820 --> 00:24:41,440 leverage off that I'm gonna four rs.25 541 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,830 engines the external tank we're using 542 00:24:48,779 --> 00:24:46,720 the same facility up and miss you 543 00:24:51,330 --> 00:24:48,789 to use the same technology in the same 544 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:51,340 resources to build the core stage here 545 00:24:54,930 --> 00:24:52,809 the course age it's going to be 546 00:24:58,529 --> 00:24:54,940 redesigned by Boeing the contracts being 547 00:25:00,600 --> 00:24:58,539 reviewed now and then for the upper 548 00:25:03,180 --> 00:25:00,610 stage we're leveraging off the Delta for 549 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:03,190 the Delta for ICPs it's called the 550 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:05,260 interim cryogenic propulsion system 551 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:08,049 we're going to modify that two-man rate 552 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:11,289 it so that'll be a first block one 553 00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:13,929 engine they call POC one rocket that 554 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:15,820 will make it sustainable so we'll 555 00:25:20,610 --> 00:25:18,010 upgrade it over time and eventually 556 00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:20,620 we'll change out we have a RFP out now 557 00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:22,840 for advanced boosters to give us again 558 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:25,000 more thrust the upper stage will be 559 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,090 changed to a j-2x engine to give us more 560 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:30,640 capability and the final goal is to be 561 00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:32,890 able to launch up to 130 metric tonnes 562 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:37,360 in the low-earth orbit and if you look 563 00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:39,130 at the power that this that she's gonna 564 00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:41,380 be able put out you talked about 8.4 565 00:25:45,779 --> 00:25:44,169 million pounds of thrust at liftoff and 566 00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:45,789 try to put that in perspective for all 567 00:25:49,529 --> 00:25:47,830 the car buffs out there that's 568 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,539 equivalent to about a hundred and sixty 569 00:25:56,190 --> 00:25:52,480 thousand Corvette engines firing all at 570 00:25:59,340 --> 00:25:56,200 the same time and the common question is 571 00:26:01,799 --> 00:25:59,350 why do we want SLS what is SLS ba why is 572 00:26:03,870 --> 00:26:01,809 America going to invest this money in 573 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:03,880 this vehicle you know right now we have 574 00:26:07,169 --> 00:26:05,530 as you'll hear the Commercial Crew folks 575 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:07,179 they're gonna be launching folks into 576 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:08,710 low-earth orbit you know they get up to 577 00:26:13,770 --> 00:26:10,210 the space station space station any 578 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:13,780 given times between 220 230 miles above 579 00:26:18,450 --> 00:26:15,730 Earth orbit you know but if you want to 580 00:26:21,450 --> 00:26:18,460 go in a deep space you need a big rocket 581 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:21,460 to launch large mass if you want to go 582 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:23,890 to the moon moon somewhere around 220 583 00:26:27,659 --> 00:26:25,690 230 thousand miles 584 00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:27,669 now Scott said if you want to go to Mars 585 00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:30,400 which NASA administrators keeps talking 586 00:26:35,850 --> 00:26:32,710 about that's approximately 23 million 587 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:35,860 miles from Earth and so that's a quite a 588 00:26:54,970 --> 00:26:50,080 that makes it easy know how much of the 589 00:27:00,160 --> 00:26:54,980 SLS is reusable or recoverable just the 590 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:00,170 Orion spacecraft is recoverable are you 591 00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:01,610 going to reuse it or is that just a 592 00:27:06,670 --> 00:27:05,030 one-time use only it's reusable you know 593 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:06,680 again it's a three program system 594 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:08,630 Marshalls responsible for the vehicle 595 00:27:13,270 --> 00:27:10,730 JSC is responsible for the Orion 596 00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,280 spacecraft on the main portion so Ryan's 597 00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:15,440 spacecraft will splash down and will be 598 00:27:26,620 --> 00:27:23,590 reusable reusable don't you reuse the 599 00:27:28,810 --> 00:27:26,630 Boosters because you did reuse them for 600 00:27:30,610 --> 00:27:28,820 the shuttle system we reuse the boosters 601 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:30,620 on space shuttle 602 00:27:38,049 --> 00:27:32,870 but for SLS we have no plans to reuse 603 00:27:39,340 --> 00:27:38,059 them the five stages we looked at you 604 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,350 know again we're going to go to a new 605 00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:42,080 upgraded booster format so we have 606 00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:44,480 enough hardware left over from the space 607 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:46,820 shuttle to do our first two launches 608 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:48,530 using the Boosters we currently have and 609 00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:55,130 there's no benefit to reuse them I got a 610 00:28:01,030 --> 00:27:57,110 question for you here it's a Hello 611 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:01,040 this rocket compared to the Saturn 5 SLS 612 00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:02,570 when I say it's the biggest rocket it's 613 00:28:08,290 --> 00:28:04,820 about 10 percent more thrust at liftoff 614 00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:08,300 than the Saturn 5 was to this quite a 615 00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:10,700 bit more capable than that you know we 616 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:12,230 try to make it sustainable again the 617 00:28:17,230 --> 00:28:14,330 payload fairing so you know right now we 618 00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:17,240 have Orion in there but we want to have 619 00:28:21,010 --> 00:28:19,040 it so you could launch large telescopes 620 00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:21,020 of large science missions to Jupiter 621 00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:23,809 Saturn whatever it's trying to make it 622 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:25,580 as diverse sustainable and affordable as 623 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:27,340 we possibly can 624 00:28:33,490 --> 00:28:31,010 DuckDuckGo lofty ambitions blog in knox 625 00:28:35,140 --> 00:28:33,500 college magazine with the 10% increase 626 00:28:37,930 --> 00:28:35,150 in thrust has that done anything to 627 00:28:40,990 --> 00:28:37,940 change the pad to firing room safety 628 00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:41,000 margin I think that would be more of a 629 00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:45,679 Scott question they're launching with 630 00:28:50,530 --> 00:28:47,270 the added thrust in the capability of a 631 00:28:53,650 --> 00:28:50,540 SLS vehicle does that put the LCC in the 632 00:28:55,450 --> 00:28:53,660 blast zone no I think we're fine 633 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:55,460 basically we've cited it all the way 634 00:28:58,930 --> 00:28:56,690 back to Saturn is 635 00:29:01,060 --> 00:28:58,940 the blast debris area the BDA we call it 636 00:29:11,589 --> 00:29:01,070 as there's plenty of margin there we're 637 00:29:13,509 --> 00:29:11,599 okay so a question for you I know the 638 00:29:17,769 --> 00:29:13,519 current schedule calls for first flight 639 00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:17,779 2017 second flight I think em2 is 2021 640 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:20,029 is there concern about the lapse between 641 00:29:26,409 --> 00:29:23,769 unmanned and manned mission in terms of 642 00:29:28,570 --> 00:29:26,419 staleness of staleness of data the 643 00:29:30,009 --> 00:29:28,580 workforce so on and so forth I think 644 00:29:31,479 --> 00:29:30,019 we're going to be doing constant 645 00:29:33,879 --> 00:29:31,489 upgrades like I've said between the 646 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:33,889 Boosters the engines so the workforce at 647 00:29:38,019 --> 00:29:35,570 KSC is gonna be upgrading their 648 00:29:39,609 --> 00:29:38,029 facilities the design teams up in 649 00:29:42,129 --> 00:29:39,619 Huntsville or working on fly back 650 00:29:46,379 --> 00:29:42,139 boosters and I think there's enough work 651 00:29:51,159 --> 00:29:49,419 James DeMuth floor today it sounds like 652 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:51,169 you're gonna have a lot more capability 653 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:52,849 than you need just to launch a crew 654 00:29:58,479 --> 00:29:56,450 inside Orion come 2021 and certainly for 655 00:30:01,320 --> 00:29:58,489 missions that follow so is there any 656 00:30:04,210 --> 00:30:01,330 expectation for you know will you be 657 00:30:10,089 --> 00:30:04,220 lifting more than just a Ryan will there 658 00:30:10,629 --> 00:30:10,099 be systems hardware you need for to 659 00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,639 complete 660 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:12,080 you know missions once they're at an 661 00:30:17,529 --> 00:30:15,289 orbiter well I think 2021 trying to send 662 00:30:20,499 --> 00:30:17,539 a manned crew around the moon will be 663 00:30:25,210 --> 00:30:20,509 pushing the SLS capability it won't be 664 00:30:26,619 --> 00:30:25,220 excess capacity okay I thought I thought 665 00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:26,629 there might be but but but moving 666 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,609 forward the intention obviously of 667 00:30:35,259 --> 00:30:30,559 evolving to a larger vehicle is that you 668 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:35,269 would be lifting landers and other 669 00:30:39,310 --> 00:30:37,220 systems in addition to a crew capsule 670 00:30:41,109 --> 00:30:39,320 yeah hopefully we'll be lifting larger 671 00:30:44,499 --> 00:30:41,119 structures that will be made it up in 672 00:30:46,029 --> 00:30:44,509 space to take the mankind into deep 673 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:46,039 space somewhere wherever the American 674 00:30:49,149 --> 00:30:47,450 public and the president directs us to 675 00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:49,159 this vehicle will give us that 676 00:30:57,009 --> 00:30:54,470 capability to do that Robby Adams from a 677 00:31:00,399 --> 00:30:57,019 knight Foundation are there components 678 00:31:02,289 --> 00:31:00,409 that are waiting to be lifted to the to 679 00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:02,299 the International Space Station that 680 00:31:05,379 --> 00:31:04,070 that would this would be capable with 681 00:31:08,019 --> 00:31:05,389 lifting that you don't maybe have the 682 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:08,029 capacity for with current systems right 683 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:10,050 now we don't have any plans for that 684 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:11,490 you know like we are relying on our 685 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:13,850 commercial partners to haul up the 686 00:31:18,350 --> 00:31:16,050 astronauts to the space station and 687 00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:18,360 bring it back down and haul up science 688 00:31:25,370 --> 00:31:23,880 back and forth thank you are there any 689 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:25,380 other use cases driving the development 690 00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:28,710 of the SLS besides Mars well I think 691 00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:30,780 it's diverse enough work to go anywhere 692 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:32,460 in deep space if you want to go the moon 693 00:31:38,150 --> 00:31:36,240 Mars Lagrange points anywhere that we 694 00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:38,160 are directed to go this vehicle will 695 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:42,510 take us I think we have an overall goal 696 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:44,730 we would all like to go to Mars but we 697 00:32:11,150 --> 00:31:46,910 need a some clear direction for that 698 00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,160 thank you thank you very much from the 699 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:12,720 Commercial Crew program we have Lisa 700 00:32:22,490 --> 00:32:14,910 Colorado she's the associate manager of 701 00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:22,500 the CCP kind of unfortunate we have a 702 00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:24,630 name like Colorado it sticks out we 703 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:26,190 couldn't have Smith or something you 704 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:28,650 know we all know there's like a couple 705 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:31,170 of thousand civil servants out here and 706 00:32:35,660 --> 00:32:33,930 every once in a while both of us line up 707 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:35,670 I did not he neither of us knew we were 708 00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:37,530 both speaking in this until we saw the 709 00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,270 agenda a couple days ago and I'm like 710 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:42,000 are you talking about that so but I'm 711 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:44,930 from the Commercial Crew program we're 712 00:32:49,730 --> 00:32:48,090 relatively new here at Kennedy the the 713 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:49,740 program was formed a couple of years ago 714 00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:51,690 so we're central here and we're reside 715 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:53,880 here the program does but we're really 716 00:32:59,270 --> 00:32:56,970 we have about half of our people at JSC 717 00:33:02,600 --> 00:32:59,280 also so it's really across the two 718 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:02,610 programs our whole mission is about 719 00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:04,890 getting our US astronauts to the space 720 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:08,400 station so after and you know I know 721 00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:10,170 that's why y'all are here after the 722 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:13,200 shuttle program was is retired was 723 00:33:19,670 --> 00:33:16,290 retiring they decided that we would have 724 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:19,680 to rely on the Russian Soyuz to get our 725 00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:22,110 US astronauts back up to the station and 726 00:33:27,050 --> 00:33:23,940 we and we do that now 727 00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:27,060 and we will until we have our capability 728 00:33:32,270 --> 00:33:29,340 ready to go and they're great partners 729 00:33:36,290 --> 00:33:32,280 but you know it's not a good place to be 730 00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:36,300 to have one one provider for that kind 731 00:33:44,350 --> 00:33:40,860 of service and we have we have a lot of 732 00:33:48,020 --> 00:33:44,360 work going on you heard earlier from the 733 00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:48,030 SLS MPCV they have like three programs 734 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:52,020 kind of running one vehicle we have kind 735 00:33:57,020 --> 00:33:54,390 of one program running three vehicles 736 00:33:58,910 --> 00:33:57,030 right now and I'll explain more we're 737 00:34:01,940 --> 00:33:58,920 kind of give you a background on where 738 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:01,950 we are and the whole progression so we 739 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:06,510 started with agreements to have we are 740 00:34:11,090 --> 00:34:08,370 called Commercial Crew development we 741 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:11,100 had CC dev 1 and CC - those are 742 00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:13,560 Commercial Crew development 1 and 2 we 743 00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:15,630 had agreements with different commercial 744 00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:18,300 industry and the first round was all 745 00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:21,600 about developing concepts and then the 746 00:34:26,419 --> 00:34:23,730 second round was more on subsystem 747 00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:26,429 development and mainly around the 748 00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:29,640 spacecraft itself we're now entering and 749 00:34:35,150 --> 00:34:32,310 we just started we awarded a new round 750 00:34:38,150 --> 00:34:35,160 of agreements to three partners just a 751 00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:38,160 couple of months ago in August and those 752 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:40,710 are all the integrated system so this is 753 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:43,650 the first time we have it but it's 754 00:34:47,330 --> 00:34:46,200 centered around the launch vehicle they 755 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:47,340 have to have an integrated system it's 756 00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:49,830 an launch vehicle the spacecraft the 757 00:34:53,810 --> 00:34:52,350 ground systems mission ops the whole the 758 00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:53,820 whole thing all the way from start to 759 00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,520 finish so that is just started and we 760 00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:59,280 have three partners that we have that 761 00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:01,280 are in work and one is Sierra Nevada 762 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:03,480 Corporation the other one is Boeing and 763 00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:06,330 then SpaceX so I wanted to and then 764 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:08,520 pretty soon we're gonna be starting 765 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:11,160 going into this NASA certification 766 00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:13,530 process so right now it's the design and 767 00:35:16,820 --> 00:35:15,000 development on the systems and soon 768 00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:16,830 we're going to enter into the NASA 769 00:35:21,140 --> 00:35:19,260 certification of those systems so again 770 00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:21,150 ultimately what we want to do is buy a 771 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:22,920 ride so eventually that's what we're 772 00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:25,290 gonna get so before I go any further I 773 00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:27,510 did want to show you a video of our 774 00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:29,580 three partners I'm not really sure what 775 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:32,280 this video shows so I might have to talk 776 00:36:09,490 --> 00:35:33,510 through it I don't know that I've seen 777 00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:11,880 looks a little bit like a mini shuttle 778 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:16,280 much smaller and what they're doing is 779 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:18,490 testing their aerodynamics of their 780 00:36:27,870 --> 00:36:21,890 design learned a lot making some changes 781 00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:30,600 and this is SpaceX's vehicle it's a 782 00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:35,230 falcon 9 and the dragon placing this in 783 00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:38,380 the news lately it's not quite the same 784 00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:40,720 ours as the crew crew version of that 785 00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:42,880 what you've seen in the papers and read 786 00:36:51,050 --> 00:36:45,790 about lately is their big success on the 787 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:54,900 and this is Boeing's cst-100 they're 788 00:37:01,050 --> 00:36:57,100 doing a drop test and you'll see they're 789 00:37:06,510 --> 00:37:01,060 going to test out their pairs or their 790 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:08,460 and this is our engine testing I don't 791 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:09,820 know I guess we don't have them the 792 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:13,570 landing sorry about that I said I didn't 793 00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:15,130 get to see the video around if I've seen 794 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:23,280 yeah there's leaning so that's the 795 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,150 Thanks 796 00:37:55,610 --> 00:37:51,250 I know you saw in the earlier video that 797 00:37:57,350 --> 00:37:55,620 heavy SOS and MPCV were about on the 798 00:38:00,140 --> 00:37:57,360 same schedule so maybe it's a little bit 799 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:00,150 of a race for internally our schedule 800 00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:04,130 has us have being ready around 2017 also 801 00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:07,740 depending on the budget we get obviously 802 00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:10,110 but it's right around the same time that 803 00:38:14,780 --> 00:38:13,320 sls and PCV they're planning the same 804 00:38:18,050 --> 00:38:14,790 time so we'll see who gets there first 805 00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:18,060 we think it's going to be us so where we 806 00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:20,880 are right now with the the integrated 807 00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:24,000 capability it's called ccicap recently 808 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,910 just to tie it in to what's going on at 809 00:38:31,790 --> 00:38:28,320 the Kennedy because I think that's the 810 00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:31,800 theme of transforming Kennedy here our 811 00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:33,960 Boeing partners just finish their 812 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:37,560 production development review and it was 813 00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:39,930 all about laying out the production 814 00:38:44,180 --> 00:38:41,880 capabilities that they're gonna have 815 00:38:46,430 --> 00:38:44,190 here at Kennedy Space Center converting 816 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,440 the what was that were processing 817 00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:49,680 facility Bay 3 to their facility which i 818 00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:51,960 think is called CC 3 PF which is 819 00:38:56,270 --> 00:38:53,400 Commercial Crew and cargo processing 820 00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:56,280 facility I believe and it was all about 821 00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,020 the production they're going to do 822 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:00,800 they're transforming and modifying the 823 00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:03,510 facility right now tearing out some of 824 00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:05,520 the old platforms and things they don't 825 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:07,320 need clearing it out building all their 826 00:39:13,220 --> 00:39:10,890 news so that was just done this week we 827 00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:13,230 are off and running I can't tell you I 828 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:16,980 mean as soon as those I kept awards were 829 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:20,130 made our team we have just been non-stop 830 00:39:25,730 --> 00:39:23,010 there's there's a lot going on for three 831 00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:25,740 partners so we had the production design 832 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:28,800 review all of them all of our partners 833 00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:32,130 right away had what we call sort of a 834 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:34,440 baseline review of their systems again 835 00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:35,910 since this is the first time we were 836 00:39:41,180 --> 00:39:38,700 looking at an integrated system this was 837 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:41,190 their first round they had some sort 838 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:42,690 called call them different names but 839 00:39:46,460 --> 00:39:44,730 basically they were all about putting 840 00:39:50,690 --> 00:39:46,470 together their plan for their integrated 841 00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:50,700 systems and they had safety reviews are 842 00:39:55,940 --> 00:39:53,520 coming up the next next round I think 843 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:55,950 and most of them have some sort of 844 00:40:00,170 --> 00:39:57,930 safety review called but you know called 845 00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:00,180 something and then different names and 846 00:40:03,330 --> 00:40:00,430 then 847 00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:03,340 have some of the ground software and the 848 00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:05,920 groundwork is coming up in the asset and 849 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,350 lunch and recovery work so that's kind 850 00:40:12,330 --> 00:40:10,720 of where we are and the program like I 851 00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:12,340 said we've come a long way 852 00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:15,670 a lot of that video hopefully you see 853 00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:17,350 that in the news we're doing trying to 854 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:20,230 do a little bit more with getting word 855 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:22,630 out in public affairs I know the 856 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:24,910 partners themselves release a lot of 857 00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:27,970 press releases you know the videos are 858 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:31,390 out we have a really good website that 859 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:33,910 you can connect to and you can see those 860 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:36,490 videos and a lot of the work that's been 861 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:38,320 going on and learn about the test 862 00:40:41,070 --> 00:40:39,610 there's really a lot to talk about 863 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:41,080 I don't think I could do that in ten 864 00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:43,810 minutes so just I guess I open up to 865 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:48,670 questions if y'all have any seriously 866 00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:52,810 don't be shy guys hi my name is Ron 867 00:40:57,810 --> 00:40:55,840 sparks question you mentioned NASA 868 00:41:00,300 --> 00:40:57,820 certification for your commercial 869 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:00,310 partners is that certification in order 870 00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:02,410 to lift our astronauts into orbit or to 871 00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:04,440 use the facilities or how does that work 872 00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:07,750 definitely for our astronauts the safety 873 00:41:12,570 --> 00:41:11,020 of our astronauts so once we get past or 874 00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:12,580 we're about to we actually have a 875 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:15,310 certification products contract that's 876 00:41:22,530 --> 00:41:18,730 being reviewed right now the proposals 877 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:22,540 are under review our our overall process 878 00:41:27,390 --> 00:41:25,030 for certifying the whole system is gonna 879 00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,400 be done in a two-phase approach so our 880 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:29,440 first phase is what's going on right now 881 00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:31,510 and that's what's being reviewed will be 882 00:41:36,330 --> 00:41:34,000 followed by followed with a second 883 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:36,340 longer term phase and it's all about 884 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:39,010 certifying that their systems meet our 885 00:41:43,590 --> 00:41:41,290 requirements our safety requirements and 886 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:43,600 our performance requirements so that's 887 00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,210 where we are as far as we're actually 888 00:41:50,910 --> 00:41:48,160 very excited because it shouldn't be 889 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:50,920 that long or saying that that first 890 00:41:56,730 --> 00:41:53,290 contract is to be ready a tow award in 891 00:41:57,740 --> 00:41:56,740 the February timeframe so not too much 892 00:42:00,480 --> 00:41:57,750 longer 893 00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:00,490 Lisa how many how many astronauts will 894 00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:04,920 the capsule wall requirement is for for 895 00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,070 most most of them have planned for more 896 00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:11,920 than for up to seven most enough seven 897 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:13,750 and they're looking at you know there's 898 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:14,170 a lot 899 00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:16,690 trades going on right now not sure all 900 00:42:20,370 --> 00:42:18,670 of them will stay at 7:00 but I mean 901 00:42:22,890 --> 00:42:20,380 it's a good point our requirement is 902 00:42:25,019 --> 00:42:22,900 four but the whole commercialization 903 00:42:27,059 --> 00:42:25,029 concept is that they could use the 904 00:42:28,849 --> 00:42:27,069 vehicle for other non-national a 905 00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:28,859 submission so they could have their own 906 00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:32,230 use you know to go for space tourism or 907 00:42:36,890 --> 00:42:34,990 any other any other use and different 908 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:36,900 each one of them has kind of a different 909 00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:39,490 business model I guess is saying that 910 00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:43,089 but our requirements are for wooden 911 00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:45,190 Boeing's capsule capsule be capable of 912 00:42:51,089 --> 00:42:48,430 water landing as well I don't think so 913 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:51,099 not anymore I know again they were doing 914 00:42:57,809 --> 00:42:54,250 trees but it's now the baseline is a 915 00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:57,819 land landing and that's what you saw on 916 00:43:03,259 --> 00:43:00,160 there they're doing testing they they 917 00:43:07,259 --> 00:43:03,269 did probably a week's worth of tests and 918 00:43:09,029 --> 00:43:07,269 again learned a lot they made some 919 00:43:11,759 --> 00:43:09,039 adjustments justments in there at 920 00:43:13,130 --> 00:43:11,769 airbags and have a center bag that 921 00:43:17,099 --> 00:43:13,140 they're going to be using to keep it 922 00:43:23,339 --> 00:43:17,109 upright and more stable so I think it's 923 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:23,349 only land landing for now are those 924 00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:26,650 safety requirements meeting those of the 925 00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:27,640 space shuttle or are they going to 926 00:43:33,930 --> 00:43:31,599 exceed that well they're they actually 927 00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:33,940 exceed them I guess it depends that's 928 00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:37,000 always a big debate right they spent a 929 00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:40,420 lot of time in the program for probably 930 00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:43,119 a year year and a half understanding and 931 00:43:46,769 --> 00:43:44,980 leveraging off of the old shuttle 932 00:43:49,650 --> 00:43:46,779 requirements and what's changed and 933 00:43:52,859 --> 00:43:49,660 what's improved you know the whole 934 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:52,869 technology has changed so technically I 935 00:43:57,499 --> 00:43:55,210 guess some people would would view them 936 00:44:00,690 --> 00:43:57,509 and maybe said they're different and and 937 00:44:04,579 --> 00:44:00,700 our view is that they are definitely 938 00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:04,589 safer they're different but safer 939 00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:07,990 Jonathan yeah I was wondering is there 940 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:09,700 any future plans for commercialization 941 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:13,089 to pass Isis or is it just that's all 942 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:14,890 that's all that's on the board right now 943 00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:19,450 yeah for our program it's only for ISS 944 00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:21,940 or low low Earth orbit so there are some 945 00:44:26,670 --> 00:44:23,500 concepts like I said there's space 946 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:26,680 tourism so there someday may be a space 947 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:27,850 hotel you 948 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:30,130 a place to go a resort to go visit and 949 00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:33,610 fly there for you know for fun but our 950 00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:35,860 vehicle in the performance is only for 951 00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:36,910 low-earth orbit 952 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:40,870 so there could be other uses our mission 953 00:44:46,770 --> 00:44:43,210 is really for our NASA astronauts but 954 00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:46,780 like I said the the more market there is 955 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:48,510 a better market the better it is for our 956 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:51,490 customers our partner so they are all 957 00:44:57,770 --> 00:44:54,130 pursuing different markets and it's hard 958 00:45:01,980 --> 00:44:57,780 to know you know at some point once you 959 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:01,990 develop the capability it we hope and 960 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:04,210 it's expected to stimulate more market 961 00:45:11,090 --> 00:45:06,250 and more business and more ideas so 962 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:11,100 there's a good chance that it will I 963 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:13,570 Lisa question for you about the man 964 00:45:19,770 --> 00:45:16,170 rating of Atlas 5 are you managing that 965 00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:19,780 through both Boeing and the SNC program 966 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:21,310 are you doing that independently I seem 967 00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:23,050 to remember something about there was an 968 00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:25,900 unfunded I think a Space Act or 969 00:45:28,830 --> 00:45:27,790 something that went on without with ula 970 00:45:30,750 --> 00:45:28,840 and analyst father could you talk about 971 00:45:34,170 --> 00:45:30,760 that yeah so you're talking about under 972 00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:34,180 CC dev 2 we had we had some funded as a 973 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:35,950 Space Act agreements and we had some 974 00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:38,490 unfunded and we did have an unfunded 975 00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:43,360 agreement with ula and so in ATK I got 976 00:45:48,810 --> 00:45:46,440 well we we looked at it and we had some 977 00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:48,820 civil servants on it but it was mainly 978 00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:51,700 about understanding and learning about 979 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:54,480 what it would take two men right and 980 00:46:00,510 --> 00:45:57,370 doing technical interchange meetings 981 00:46:04,830 --> 00:46:00,520 having discussions it was nothing 982 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:04,840 binding we didn't we have not really 983 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,730 ventured down that other than to give 984 00:46:11,790 --> 00:46:09,040 them some of our benefit of our 985 00:46:13,230 --> 00:46:11,800 expertise and what we expect and for 986 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:13,240 them to learn and tell us what their 987 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:16,930 plans are but our art like I said our 988 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:19,810 system will be certified to the safety 989 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:22,480 requirements and we will work through 990 00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:26,680 our Boeing and you know our primes so we 991 00:46:31,350 --> 00:46:29,830 will directly be you know interfacing 992 00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:31,360 with them and doing that but we have to 993 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:33,070 make sure the whole entire system 994 00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,450 including the launch vehicle has the 995 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:36,400 right 996 00:46:40,890 --> 00:46:39,010 as you look at Atlas 5 as a component of 997 00:46:44,130 --> 00:46:40,900 both complete systems independently you 998 00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:44,140 won't look at it as you won't look at it 999 00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:47,140 as a as a separate component no it will 1000 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:48,940 be part of the whole system you know 1001 00:46:52,350 --> 00:46:50,770 what we do have teams I mean we have our 1002 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:52,360 organization is set up so that we have a 1003 00:46:57,420 --> 00:46:54,370 launch vehicle systems office and a 1004 00:47:00,060 --> 00:46:57,430 spacecraft and a ground so in effect we 1005 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:00,070 will have some different groups but in 1006 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:02,770 the end we have to certify the whole 1007 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:06,910 system if there is a change of 1008 00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:09,010 administration next week how do you see 1009 00:47:14,310 --> 00:47:11,140 this affecting or not affecting business 1010 00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:14,320 or slowing it down or what do you see 1011 00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:16,360 yeah that's the million-dollar question 1012 00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:19,660 right we've been there before and things 1013 00:47:26,850 --> 00:47:24,220 can change it's hard to say you know it 1014 00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:26,860 really is hard to say I think there's a 1015 00:47:31,230 --> 00:47:28,900 lot of support for the commercial 1016 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:31,240 marketing a commercial space market in 1017 00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:35,440 general we have some commitments already 1018 00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:38,310 made so I don't think those will be 1019 00:47:43,830 --> 00:47:40,750 disturbed the for the work that's going 1020 00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:43,840 on right now will remain to see don't 1021 00:47:50,580 --> 00:47:48,340 have to remain optimistic and just wait 1022 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:50,590 and see what happens but either way 1023 00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:52,930 we'll adjust you know we always will 1024 00:47:56,370 --> 00:47:53,920 just have to do whatever the 1025 00:47:58,770 --> 00:47:56,380 administration has decides as our future 1026 00:48:01,860 --> 00:47:58,780 will will adjust and make plans so I'm 1027 00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:01,870 hopeful that we'll stay on track it's a 1028 00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:03,420 good question though 1029 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:07,030 hi is there any way that NASA has grown 1030 00:48:12,740 --> 00:48:09,250 the program through their partners and 1031 00:48:17,330 --> 00:48:12,750 ideas or vice versa or any collaboration 1032 00:48:21,180 --> 00:48:17,340 that is like the whole underlying I 1033 00:48:23,490 --> 00:48:21,190 guess foundation of our program and we 1034 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:23,500 notice we call them partnerships which 1035 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:26,170 is true which is it's intended to be a 1036 00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:29,290 partnership we have done so many things 1037 00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:32,110 that are innovative and different from 1038 00:48:39,450 --> 00:48:35,230 maybe some of the historical programs 1039 00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:39,460 manned space programs we have we have 1040 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:40,480 tank teams 1041 00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:42,910 pit teams that work with our partners so 1042 00:48:47,820 --> 00:48:45,310 we have a pit team partner integration 1043 00:48:48,859 --> 00:48:47,830 team that that works with each of the 1044 00:48:52,789 --> 00:48:48,869 partners 1045 00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:52,799 and we are in constant contact with them 1046 00:49:00,079 --> 00:48:56,339 we meet in our teams meet daily to 1047 00:49:02,299 --> 00:49:00,089 understand where their risks are and 1048 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:02,309 where they are in the process and how we 1049 00:49:07,339 --> 00:49:04,650 can help in the expertise we have maybe 1050 00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:07,349 in-house we have done a lot of things 1051 00:49:10,759 --> 00:49:08,630 even back when we were writing 1052 00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:10,769 requirements or programmatic 1053 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:14,910 requirements we had several forums with 1054 00:49:22,279 --> 00:49:19,729 industry there to say these are proposed 1055 00:49:24,140 --> 00:49:22,289 requirements as as we had them but back 1056 00:49:27,819 --> 00:49:24,150 at the back before they were baselined 1057 00:49:31,459 --> 00:49:27,829 or approved and asked for feedback and 1058 00:49:36,279 --> 00:49:31,469 we got a lot of feedback and so you know 1059 00:49:40,849 --> 00:49:36,289 and so we have really tried to include 1060 00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:40,859 industry in a lot of our progress and 1061 00:49:44,930 --> 00:49:43,529 decision-making along the way and so I 1062 00:49:49,789 --> 00:49:44,940 would definitely say it's more of a 1063 00:49:51,019 --> 00:49:49,799 partnership and in the innovation I 1064 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:51,029 don't know if you notice and you pick it 1065 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:53,729 up on the video how different the three 1066 00:49:58,099 --> 00:49:55,890 the three different commercial 1067 00:49:59,329 --> 00:49:58,109 transportation systems are just even 1068 00:50:02,569 --> 00:49:59,339 looking at them you know they're very 1069 00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:02,579 it's a lot of it is kind of amazing when 1070 00:50:06,799 --> 00:50:04,319 you put out once you know kind of the 1071 00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:06,809 same requirements to all the industry 1072 00:50:11,269 --> 00:50:08,940 and they come up with three very 1073 00:50:15,049 --> 00:50:11,279 different looking and functioning and 1074 00:50:17,569 --> 00:50:15,059 you know different um philosophies 1075 00:50:20,739 --> 00:50:17,579 behind their their their systems so it's 1076 00:50:23,269 --> 00:50:20,749 been good challenges both sides I think 1077 00:50:25,219 --> 00:50:23,279 to be last question of all times um is 1078 00:50:26,509 --> 00:50:25,229 there any concern about the Commercial 1079 00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,519 Crew program and the press is getting 1080 00:50:31,809 --> 00:50:28,559 especially with SpaceX over shattering 1081 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:31,819 what NASA is doing internally with SLS I 1082 00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:34,170 know your ass and probably the wrong 1083 00:50:41,989 --> 00:50:38,609 person I think I mean me personally I 1084 00:50:44,569 --> 00:50:41,999 think any success is good for the space 1085 00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:44,579 industry in general so we root for them 1086 00:50:48,859 --> 00:50:46,140 just like I'm you know we work with our 1087 00:50:51,769 --> 00:50:48,869 counterparts for the station and 1088 00:50:53,569 --> 00:50:51,779 anything that that helps and anything 1089 00:50:56,779 --> 00:50:53,579 that brings up the whole level of the 1090 00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:56,789 the community the space community the 1091 00:51:01,609 --> 00:50:59,700 commercial industry is really I mean we 1092 00:51:02,779 --> 00:51:01,619 see it good for all so I don't know that 1093 00:51:04,999 --> 00:51:02,789 we would ever 1094 00:51:07,909 --> 00:51:05,009 think that it's you know a competition 1095 00:51:09,890 --> 00:51:07,919 in that sense now you know some of the 1096 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:09,900 presses in here makes it come across a 1097 00:51:14,449 --> 00:51:12,660 little bit that way in my view but 1098 00:51:16,849 --> 00:51:14,459 that's not you know that's not kind of 1099 00:51:20,449 --> 00:51:16,859 our program look we would love to see 1100 00:51:23,329 --> 00:51:20,459 more more success as many that we can we 1101 00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:23,339 can have is actually a better for the 1102 00:51:29,749 --> 00:51:25,169 whole program and better for the agency 1103 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:29,759 so and the in the country thank thank 1104 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:40,909 up next today is Bruce Reid he is the 1105 00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:43,410 Kennedy Space Center mission manager for 1106 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:44,910 the Landsat data continuity mission 1107 00:51:47,809 --> 00:51:46,650 which I don't know if you all have been 1108 00:51:49,370 --> 00:51:47,819 following along but we announced that 1109 00:51:51,499 --> 00:51:49,380 we're gonna be doing a NASA social at 1110 00:51:53,989 --> 00:51:51,509 the ldcm launch out at Vandenberg Air 1111 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:53,999 Force Base coming up in February so if 1112 00:51:59,390 --> 00:51:55,890 you haven't seen that yet please go to 1113 00:52:01,039 --> 00:51:59,400 dub dub dub nasa.gov slash social and go 1114 00:52:02,449 --> 00:52:01,049 ahead and look around for registration 1115 00:52:03,529 --> 00:52:02,459 in December so here to tell you a little 1116 00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:03,539 bit about what they're doing to prepare 1117 00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:09,839 for launch here is Bruce thank you Jason 1118 00:52:16,969 --> 00:52:12,689 and thanks for opening up social to 1119 00:52:18,289 --> 00:52:16,979 people not named Colorado I just want to 1120 00:52:20,449 --> 00:52:18,299 start by telling you a little bit about 1121 00:52:21,649 --> 00:52:20,459 what the launch services program does so 1122 00:52:24,380 --> 00:52:21,659 we've talked a lot about the banned 1123 00:52:27,649 --> 00:52:24,390 programs here today the launch services 1124 00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:27,659 program is the middleman between the 1125 00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:31,380 spacecraft and the launch vehicle so our 1126 00:52:37,009 --> 00:52:34,079 job is to procure the launch service and 1127 00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:37,019 to select the appropriate launch vehicle 1128 00:52:42,049 --> 00:52:39,209 and of course this is based on the size 1129 00:52:44,859 --> 00:52:42,059 of the spacecraft its destination in 1130 00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:44,869 space and of course how much it weighs 1131 00:52:50,989 --> 00:52:48,689 so for our spacecraft customers we 1132 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:50,999 provide a lot of technical guidance and 1133 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:52,650 this is over a period of three to five 1134 00:52:58,039 --> 00:52:55,650 years so they'll need help with what are 1135 00:53:00,409 --> 00:52:58,049 the interface requirements how do I fit 1136 00:53:05,029 --> 00:53:00,419 mechanically and electrical on this 1137 00:53:07,789 --> 00:53:05,039 launch vehicle payload adaptor and I'm 1138 00:53:10,429 --> 00:53:07,799 sure most of you are aware of the recent 1139 00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:10,439 missions that we have had and overseeing 1140 00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:14,579 we had rbsp radio about storm probes in 1141 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:16,140 August of this year 1142 00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:17,970 also the NuStar mission was launched 1143 00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:21,510 from Kwajalein that was off of the the 1144 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:25,560 air launched pegasus rocket and i was 1145 00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:27,330 the mission manager on grail last year 1146 00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:28,920 that was the Gravity Recovery and 1147 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:35,880 interior laboratory and of course the 1148 00:53:39,410 --> 00:53:37,050 one that you saw in the video earlier 1149 00:53:44,170 --> 00:53:39,420 the Mars Science Lab launched in 1150 00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:44,180 November of last year so my job is to 1151 00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:47,040 I'm the primary point of contact for the 1152 00:53:52,310 --> 00:53:49,260 spacecraft customer which means I'm the 1153 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:52,320 complaint department actually but I have 1154 00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,330 what we call mission integration team so 1155 00:53:59,360 --> 00:53:56,400 it's a team of senior level engineers 1156 00:54:01,040 --> 00:53:59,370 and business people and we guide the 1157 00:54:03,410 --> 00:54:01,050 customer through this through this 1158 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:03,420 process so our ultimate goal in the 1159 00:54:06,310 --> 00:54:05,250 launch services program which is based 1160 00:54:09,770 --> 00:54:06,320 here at KSC 1161 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:09,780 is to maximize mission success that is 1162 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:12,170 our goal the program has been here since 1163 00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:15,930 1998 so what I really wanted to talk to 1164 00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:17,220 you about today was the Landsat data 1165 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:20,070 continuity mission it's launching on 1166 00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:22,770 February 11th from Vandenberg Air Force 1167 00:54:30,110 --> 00:54:25,470 Base and we're gonna show a short video 1168 00:54:40,790 --> 00:54:30,120 here about what ldcm means to the 1169 00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:40,800 everyday person in 1972 was satellite 1170 00:54:45,590 --> 00:54:42,510 was launched which will help to manage 1171 00:54:49,940 --> 00:54:45,600 world agriculture Landsat the earth 1172 00:54:51,850 --> 00:54:49,950 resources and today over seven billion 1173 00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:51,860 people and their use of technology 1174 00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:54,540 create drastic changes to the land 1175 00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:02,950 in four decades Landsat satellites have 1176 00:55:07,540 --> 00:55:05,359 revolutionized remote sensing by 1177 00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:07,550 collecting the longest historical 1178 00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:17,740 launching ldcm and continuing the 1179 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:20,510 Landsat mission is critical for the 1180 00:55:32,980 --> 00:55:22,730 large number of government and private 1181 00:55:35,859 --> 00:55:32,990 data users worldwide for the Robert 1182 00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:35,869 Mondavi Winery of Napa Valley California 1183 00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:38,830 Landsat plays a major role in monitoring 1184 00:55:46,090 --> 00:55:43,609 400 acres of land the raw satellite data 1185 00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:46,100 gets processed externally as a weekly 1186 00:55:52,090 --> 00:55:49,310 report the Landsat imagery and data in 1187 00:55:55,359 --> 00:55:52,100 the report show color-coded comparisons 1188 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:55,369 of water usage leaf growth stress levels 1189 00:56:00,190 --> 00:55:57,530 and other measurements from the current 1190 00:56:02,349 --> 00:56:00,200 and past years as well as detailed 1191 00:56:04,530 --> 00:56:02,359 graphs with the condition of each 1192 00:56:07,870 --> 00:56:04,540 vineyard glunk 1193 00:56:11,290 --> 00:56:07,880 based on this information managers can 1194 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:11,300 plan care for the vines now and also in 1195 00:56:15,849 --> 00:56:13,090 the years ahead 1196 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:15,859 the Landsat image allows us to 1197 00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:18,650 understand and quantify how many leaves 1198 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:20,990 there are in a vineyard and once we know 1199 00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:23,330 that then the people we're working with 1200 00:56:29,020 --> 00:56:25,600 they can make calculations of how much 1201 00:56:31,090 --> 00:56:29,030 water that is we can compare to other 1202 00:56:32,859 --> 00:56:31,100 vineyards are we using too much or too 1203 00:56:33,550 --> 00:56:32,869 little are we applying it at the right 1204 00:56:35,950 --> 00:56:33,560 time 1205 00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:35,960 one of the major advantages for the 1206 00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:39,440 winery is the use of continuous data to 1207 00:56:44,099 --> 00:56:41,390 help make long-term decisions in 1208 00:56:50,170 --> 00:56:47,769 among many other uses Landsat data is 1209 00:56:53,739 --> 00:56:50,180 applied in managing millions of acres of 1210 00:56:56,739 --> 00:56:53,749 timberland using a specially designed 1211 00:56:59,229 --> 00:56:56,749 tool workers at American Forests 1212 00:57:02,430 --> 00:56:59,239 management are able to analyze satellite 1213 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:02,440 data and estimate the leaf area index 1214 00:57:10,059 --> 00:57:05,690 this index shows the concentration of 1215 00:57:11,890 --> 00:57:10,069 needles on pine trees once we process 1216 00:57:14,829 --> 00:57:11,900 the role product we were able to create 1217 00:57:17,950 --> 00:57:14,839 maps for clients which allow them to 1218 00:57:21,249 --> 00:57:17,960 analyze the data look at sands that have 1219 00:57:23,289 --> 00:57:21,259 high or low leaf area index based off 1220 00:57:25,299 --> 00:57:23,299 that number they're able to make 1221 00:57:28,180 --> 00:57:25,309 management decisions whether it's 1222 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:28,190 beneficial to fertilize or possibly do 1223 00:57:34,829 --> 00:57:30,890 some Hardware control on a stand to make 1224 00:57:37,779 --> 00:57:34,839 it grow stronger faster healthier 1225 00:57:40,569 --> 00:57:37,789 Landsat provides a quicker solution to 1226 00:57:43,269 --> 00:57:40,579 pinpointing problematic areas so they 1227 00:57:46,029 --> 00:57:43,279 can be further analyzed on the ground in 1228 00:57:49,959 --> 00:57:46,039 contrast collecting data on the ground 1229 00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:49,969 or by airplane involves more manpower it 1230 00:57:54,670 --> 00:57:52,160 is slower and comes at a much higher 1231 00:57:57,519 --> 00:57:54,680 cost which makes this series of 1232 00:58:09,900 --> 00:57:57,529 satellites irreplaceable for many years 1233 00:58:15,970 --> 00:58:12,970 okay I've got some slides to augment 1234 00:58:17,770 --> 00:58:15,980 that video you did notice on there that 1235 00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:17,780 it is wine country if he needed another 1236 00:58:28,020 --> 00:58:21,070 reason to go to the NASA social watch 1237 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:32,080 okay so it's a joint mission NASA and 1238 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:35,810 the US Geological Survey we're going to 1239 00:58:40,510 --> 00:58:37,610 study predict and understand the 1240 00:58:42,370 --> 00:58:40,520 consequences of land surface changes I 1241 00:58:46,210 --> 00:58:42,380 mentioned the launch date on February 1242 00:58:48,970 --> 00:58:46,220 11th 2013 will be launching off on Space 1243 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:48,980 Launch Complex 3 at Vandenberg Air Force 1244 00:58:54,250 --> 00:58:52,370 Base and the launch vehicle that the 1245 00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:54,260 launch you see on the screen there is 1246 00:58:58,990 --> 00:58:56,510 the one of the National Reconnaissance 1247 00:59:01,090 --> 00:58:59,000 Orbiter missions that launched on I 1248 00:59:04,030 --> 00:59:01,100 believe 7th September 13th of this year 1249 00:59:05,620 --> 00:59:04,040 so that was complex 3 there and the 1250 00:59:12,430 --> 00:59:05,630 launch vehicle is a United Launch 1251 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:12,440 Alliance Atlas 5 401 so it's a five-year 1252 00:59:19,630 --> 00:59:17,930 mission that is our design goal is 1253 00:59:23,140 --> 00:59:19,640 five-year mission but we have 10 years 1254 00:59:27,610 --> 00:59:23,150 of propellant with hopes always to 1255 00:59:29,590 --> 00:59:27,620 exceed that design the satellite system 1256 00:59:32,020 --> 00:59:29,600 elements consist of the spacecraft of 1257 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:32,030 course which provides all the guidance 1258 00:59:37,450 --> 00:59:34,490 for the satellite on orbit and then we 1259 00:59:41,290 --> 00:59:37,460 have two instruments the operational 1260 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:41,300 land imager is built by ball and the 1261 00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:45,530 thermal infrared sensor is a in-house 1262 00:59:52,330 --> 00:59:48,710 NASA built instrument at Goddard Space 1263 00:59:54,690 --> 00:59:52,340 Flight Center once we get on orbit and 1264 00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:54,700 the satellite is completely checked out 1265 01:00:03,100 --> 00:59:58,730 it'll be transferred to the USGS the 1266 01:00:06,910 --> 01:00:03,110 operational orbit is 705 kilometres 438 1267 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:06,920 miles it's a near polar orbit and the 1268 01:00:13,150 --> 01:00:10,970 orbit period is 98.9 minutes so we'll do 1269 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:13,160 a complete revolution of the earth every 1270 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:14,570 about every hundred minutes 1271 01:00:19,630 --> 01:00:17,810 and then every 16 days we will have 1272 01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:19,640 completely mapped the earth and then 1273 01:00:26,140 --> 01:00:21,910 start that cycle again 1274 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:26,150 so the swath of that is about 114 miles 1275 01:00:30,450 --> 01:00:26,810 wide 1276 01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:30,460 as it passes over the land so this is 1277 01:00:35,140 --> 01:00:32,960 just to give you an idea the Landsat 1278 01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:35,150 legacy we've been doing this for over 40 1279 01:00:40,350 --> 01:00:37,030 years now so we have 40 years of 1280 01:00:44,980 --> 01:00:40,360 continuous data we launched Landsat 1 in 1281 01:00:47,110 --> 01:00:44,990 1972 and again continuous data Landsat 5 1282 01:00:48,370 --> 01:00:47,120 was just taken out of operation in 1283 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:48,380 November of last year 1284 01:00:55,650 --> 01:00:52,370 and Landsat 6 failed to reach orbit but 1285 01:00:58,900 --> 01:00:55,660 luckily we had Landsat 7 on orbit and 1286 01:01:01,300 --> 01:00:58,910 Landsat 7 is seven years beyond its 1287 01:01:03,610 --> 01:01:01,310 design life now so it's still 1288 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:03,620 functioning it's got some some 1289 01:01:09,610 --> 01:01:06,050 instrument degradation but it's still in 1290 01:01:13,060 --> 01:01:09,620 orbit and still returning data but that 1291 01:01:15,580 --> 01:01:13,070 is the need for ldcm to go ahead and get 1292 01:01:22,030 --> 01:01:15,590 it on orbit so we can continue that data 1293 01:01:24,990 --> 01:01:22,040 collection so land cover and land use 1294 01:01:27,730 --> 01:01:25,000 they're changing at unprecedented rates 1295 01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:27,740 driven of course mainly by population 1296 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:31,310 and climate and we all know that's going 1297 01:01:37,090 --> 01:01:33,530 only going to accelerate going forward 1298 01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:37,100 and they it has profound consequences on 1299 01:01:44,230 --> 01:01:40,400 fiber and food production water resource 1300 01:01:47,230 --> 01:01:44,240 management there's 13 western states and 1301 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:47,240 26 countries that that use Landsat 1302 01:01:52,330 --> 01:01:49,810 scenes for water resource management and 1303 01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:52,340 you saw on the video there they're using 1304 01:01:59,830 --> 01:01:55,910 it to to help with their wine crops and 1305 01:02:02,380 --> 01:01:59,840 grape crops so also will will be giving 1306 01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:02,390 feedback to the physical climate system 1307 01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:04,310 atmospheric carbon and also energy 1308 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:10,000 balance so we're living through 1309 01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:11,930 accelerating changes in land use 1310 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:14,630 resource availability and ecological 1311 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:17,210 health and we need to monitor these 1312 01:02:24,790 --> 01:02:21,290 changes so we can prepare for future 1313 01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:24,800 trends and this Landsat program fills a 1314 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:26,960 critical need nish 1315 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:28,730 and the architecture of land remote 1316 01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,570 sensing and geospatial technology so 1317 01:02:37,450 --> 01:02:34,880 making Landsat program operational is 1318 01:02:39,850 --> 01:02:37,460 the best way to guarantee continuity of 1319 01:02:46,150 --> 01:02:39,860 land monitoring monitoring through the 1320 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:46,160 21st century so the eros Center the 1321 01:02:50,050 --> 01:02:49,250 earth resources and an observation and 1322 01:02:53,530 --> 01:02:50,060 Science Center 1323 01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,540 it's in Sioux Falls Ida I'm sorry Sioux 1324 01:02:57,580 --> 01:02:55,280 Falls South Dakota I knew I was going to 1325 01:03:00,430 --> 01:02:57,590 do that and on the left there is a 1326 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:00,440 picture of that Center and they so the 1327 01:03:06,910 --> 01:03:03,530 all the data is downlink tanned and 1328 01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:06,920 stored and distributed by the eros 1329 01:03:18,690 --> 01:03:14,510 Center next slide so right now the USGS 1330 01:03:22,450 --> 01:03:18,700 has over 3 million Landsat scenes and 1331 01:03:25,870 --> 01:03:22,460 again that spans almost 40 years and up 1332 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:25,880 until 2008 the state it was fairly 1333 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:28,010 expensive and then there was a change in 1334 01:03:34,810 --> 01:03:31,730 policy and so this data is now free and 1335 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:34,820 the distribution has gone from 25,000 1336 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:37,850 scenes per year to over 3 million seeds 1337 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:40,370 per year and the u.s. is the only nation 1338 01:03:46,180 --> 01:03:42,770 that's really committed to preserving 1339 01:03:57,789 --> 01:03:46,190 that this multi-deck had a decade old 1340 01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:00,620 so this is the launch vehicle it's built 1341 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:02,910 by United Launch Alliance on the left 1342 01:04:07,490 --> 01:04:05,250 and the picture you see the ldcm 1343 01:04:11,450 --> 01:04:07,500 spacecraft surrounded by the payload 1344 01:04:14,750 --> 01:04:11,460 fairing the payload fairing protects 1345 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:14,760 that satellite on ascent it'll be the 1346 01:04:23,180 --> 01:04:19,410 configuration is an Atlas 5 401 we've 1347 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:23,190 got a single centaur engine a single 1348 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:25,890 rl10 engines on the Centaur and a 1349 01:04:30,859 --> 01:04:28,410 Russian built rd-180 engine on the on 1350 01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:30,869 the Atlas booster we have an onboard 1351 01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:33,119 video system so we'll be streaming live 1352 01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:35,849 video on ascent 1353 01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:38,400 we've got a camera that's on the booster 1354 01:04:42,890 --> 01:04:41,160 facing up the one facing down and then 1355 01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:42,900 we've got another camera on the Centaur 1356 01:04:46,579 --> 01:04:45,119 facing up so we'll be able to see the 1357 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:46,589 satellites separate from the launch 1358 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:50,970 vehicle and just some facts there it'll 1359 01:04:58,250 --> 01:04:55,530 be the 37th Atlas 5 launch so in summary 1360 01:05:01,309 --> 01:04:58,260 the current launch date is February 11th 1361 01:05:03,859 --> 01:05:01,319 the spacecraft is in the thermal vac 1362 01:05:07,490 --> 01:05:03,869 chamber at orbital sciences corporation 1363 01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:07,500 in Gilbert Arizona we're planning to 1364 01:05:13,940 --> 01:05:10,160 ship on December 18th of this year and 1365 01:05:16,730 --> 01:05:13,950 then we'll do the final spacecraft 1366 01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,740 processing things like battery charging 1367 01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:18,720 in that it at the Astrotech facility of 1368 01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:21,599 Vandenberg Master Tech for those who 1369 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:23,369 don't know is a commercial payload 1370 01:05:27,980 --> 01:05:26,010 processing facility and it's used to 1371 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:27,990 process payloads for the Air Force 1372 01:05:33,260 --> 01:05:30,450 commercial payloads and also NASA 1373 01:05:35,089 --> 01:05:33,270 payloads so the launch vehicle 1374 01:05:37,250 --> 01:05:35,099 activities are on track if you go to 1375 01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:37,260 select 3 right now you'll see the ldcm 1376 01:05:41,660 --> 01:05:39,359 launch vehicle is already stacked at the 1377 01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:41,670 pad they're doing their electrical and 1378 01:05:50,180 --> 01:05:44,880 mechanical preparations for our launch 1379 01:05:52,220 --> 01:05:50,190 on February 11th and lastly we have some 1380 01:05:53,329 --> 01:05:52,230 Landsat web sites for a reference in 1381 01:05:57,230 --> 01:05:53,339 case you want to do a little more 1382 01:06:03,210 --> 01:05:57,240 research so that's all I have for you 1383 01:06:07,330 --> 01:06:05,740 I'm tracing our vans from San Diego 1384 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:07,340 California by the way if everywhere 1385 01:06:11,290 --> 01:06:09,050 eleventh is three days off my birthday 1386 01:06:12,580 --> 01:06:11,300 so and I'm close so just you know so 1387 01:06:14,350 --> 01:06:12,590 there we go 1388 01:06:16,180 --> 01:06:14,360 but my question for you is we talked 1389 01:06:17,530 --> 01:06:16,190 mostly about agricultural uses but does 1390 01:06:20,530 --> 01:06:17,540 it also keep track of things like sea 1391 01:06:20,830 --> 01:06:20,540 ice and and with glaciers that sort of 1392 01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:20,840 thing 1393 01:06:28,350 --> 01:06:25,760 yes it does you know the interesting 1394 01:06:31,570 --> 01:06:28,360 thing is since the date is free now 1395 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:31,580 we're finding people are out there that 1396 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:33,290 are able to obtain this data are finding 1397 01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:35,810 more and more uses for it so we are able 1398 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:38,720 to determine quite a bit just from the 1399 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:42,010 thermal infrared sensor and also the 1400 01:06:45,820 --> 01:06:45,290 land imager so it is being used for that 1401 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:45,830 purpose 1402 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:54,050 a mark radarman with talking space a 1403 01:06:58,780 --> 01:06:57,050 question for you about what happens from 1404 01:07:01,360 --> 01:06:58,790 launch to orbit and when the satellites 1405 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:01,370 turned over to the user what kind of 1406 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:03,970 checkouts are done is there changes in 1407 01:07:10,930 --> 01:07:08,330 the instruments and how they read or is 1408 01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:10,940 it just verifying that they work yeah 1409 01:07:16,180 --> 01:07:14,440 it's mostly verifying that they work 1410 01:07:18,730 --> 01:07:16,190 incidentally I didn't talk too much 1411 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:18,740 about that but the separation from the 1412 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:20,210 launch vehicle will be an hour and 18 1413 01:07:25,810 --> 01:07:24,050 minutes after launch and then you know 1414 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:25,820 it was also on the imposed preparatory 1415 01:07:30,190 --> 01:07:27,410 project which launched from Vandenberg 1416 01:07:32,020 --> 01:07:30,200 last October and it took them about 1417 01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:32,030 three or four months to completely check 1418 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:33,920 out the satellite so they run through a 1419 01:07:38,770 --> 01:07:37,250 series of tests and also how you 1420 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:38,780 communicate with the Mission Operations 1421 01:07:45,730 --> 01:07:43,490 Center so so there's a lot of check out 1422 01:07:49,150 --> 01:07:45,740 that needs to be done before you're 1423 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:49,160 confident that they're not going to have 1424 01:07:54,610 --> 01:07:52,370 any issues once it's turned over at that 1425 01:08:04,360 --> 01:07:54,620 point once it's turned over it should 1426 01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:08,600 hi i'm jonathan yow I was curious is the 1427 01:08:14,510 --> 01:08:11,280 land set does it it's continuous image 1428 01:08:17,420 --> 01:08:14,520 capture or is it task based it's 1429 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:17,430 continuous image capture so will be in a 1430 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:22,290 polar orbit and every orbit only takes 1431 01:08:27,740 --> 01:08:24,690 about a hundred minutes and it's 114 1432 01:08:29,780 --> 01:08:27,750 miles wide so you continue that and 1433 01:08:33,260 --> 01:08:29,790 changing your clocking around the earth 1434 01:08:37,190 --> 01:08:33,270 and 16 days later you have completely 1435 01:08:39,770 --> 01:08:37,200 mapped the earth and so whether or not 1436 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:39,780 all those images are stored and whether 1437 01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:41,850 they would even be able to accommodate 1438 01:08:49,850 --> 01:08:45,600 that that I'm not sure of but yes it's a 1439 01:08:54,890 --> 01:08:49,860 continuous packing and so that's what we 1440 01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:54,900 plan to do hi I'm Kelly huge paths and I 1441 01:08:58,910 --> 01:08:56,040 was just wondering you have said a 1442 01:09:02,600 --> 01:08:58,920 couple of times the data is now free is 1443 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:02,610 there any future thought into 1444 01:09:12,530 --> 01:09:08,370 commercializing the data that's a good 1445 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:12,540 question I am not aware of any landsat's 1446 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:16,050 motto is free data for free society so 1447 01:09:23,150 --> 01:09:19,050 you know it's it's the data is so 1448 01:09:26,750 --> 01:09:23,160 valuable and you know really what it's 1449 01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:26,760 all about is preserving our resources 1450 01:09:33,500 --> 01:09:29,550 and managing our resources here on earth 1451 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:33,510 so I'm not aware of anything in the 1452 01:09:41,330 --> 01:09:37,730 works to commercialize that availability 1453 01:09:43,340 --> 01:09:41,340 hi it's Laura Blume is it visible from 1454 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:43,350 you can can you see it go over or is 1455 01:09:47,870 --> 01:09:45,290 there a way to know where it is 1456 01:09:52,790 --> 01:09:47,880 well certainly online you could track it 1457 01:10:01,820 --> 01:09:52,800 I would say it is not visible is if you 1458 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:05,220 hi Ron sparks well what kind of quality 1459 01:10:10,890 --> 01:10:06,490 and resolution can we expect from this 1460 01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:10,900 camera I don't have those numbers off 1461 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:13,120 the top of my head I can get those to 1462 01:10:17,190 --> 01:10:15,850 you I actually it's funny you mention 1463 01:10:19,410 --> 01:10:17,200 that because I originally had them on 1464 01:10:24,450 --> 01:10:19,420 the chart and we thought well you know 1465 01:10:32,430 --> 01:10:24,460 that's too much technical detail so see 1466 01:10:34,380 --> 01:10:32,440 me after this event what's the 1467 01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:34,390 difference between launching this out at 1468 01:10:38,850 --> 01:10:36,310 Vandenberg Air Force Base versus here at 1469 01:10:42,270 --> 01:10:38,860 the Cape well we're going into a polar 1470 01:10:44,610 --> 01:10:42,280 orbit so if you look at a globe and you 1471 01:10:47,130 --> 01:10:44,620 look at the geographical location of 1472 01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,140 Annenberg Air Force space you launch due 1473 01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:49,360 south you don't go over any land and 1474 01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:51,340 it's the most efficient way to put a 1475 01:10:55,580 --> 01:10:53,920 satellite into polar orbit so from 1476 01:10:58,770 --> 01:10:55,590 Florida we tend to walk to the launch 1477 01:11:07,110 --> 01:10:58,780 satellites into equatorial orbit and we 1478 01:11:15,650 --> 01:11:07,120 launch directly east other questions all 1479 01:11:21,630 --> 01:11:18,660 so this concludes today's portion of the 1480 01:11:22,980 --> 01:11:21,640 NASA social on NASA TV I just want to 1481 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:22,990 remind everybody that you can follow 1482 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:25,450 along with NASA we're at NASA on Twitter 1483 01:11:29,460 --> 01:11:28,090 on Google+ where plus NASA and on 1484 01:11:33,210 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successful move of 1498 01:12:05,460 --> 01:12:03,640 the space shuttle so thank you all very 1499 01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:05,470 much for joining us today and thanks for